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July 1, 2009

“Shared Parenting” Advocate Blames Mom for Being Stabbed to Death by Dad

Just when I think the garbage that comes from the abuser’s lobby can’t get much worse, I run across something else even more horrifying.  An Indiana mother who had gotten protective orders three days prior was stabbed to death by her abusive husband on Father’s Day, in front of their children.  And this “shared parenting” advocate has the nerve to blame the mother for her death!  What a nutcase…goes to show you what these guys really stand for.

Stuart Showalter

Stuart Showalter

 From Mothers of Lost Children:

Angie Warnock is Blamed for Her Own Death

with 5 comments

Another local blogger, Stuart Showalter, has chosen to blame Angie Warnock for her own death, stating that she should not have gotten protective orders:

“Angela Warnock’s use of the Indiana Civil Protection Order Act for leverage in the divorce proceedings with the father of their two daughters failed her this past weekend. On Friday she had obtained an order that would keep the father from having any further contact with his daughters for two years. In addition she had the daughters, age 8 and 12, sleeping with her. These are both signs of Parental Alienation.”

How interesting he claims the Protective Order was a leverage tool, when she had the hearing on Thursday last week to uphold and extend.  Joseph made the run to the courthouse on Friday to file for divorce.

In the hearing last week, the judge continued the preliminary order that Warnock should have no contact with his family.  Love also suggested that the couple take their dispute to divorce court. Joseph Warnock filed for divorce the next day.

More Stuart:

“Parental Alienation is damaging to the child. Instead of promoting independence, the alienating parent encourages continued dependence by the children. The parent may insist on sleeping with the child, feeding the child (”It’s easier if I do it”), and taking care of these rites of passage longer than normal child development calls for. One theory about why a mother will act this way is that when a father takes his share of joint custody is that it is like asking her to give away part of her body. One mother said, “He is going to remove my right arm and take it for the weekend.” It feels like the mother has lost a profound part of who she is as a person. She feels fractured, pulled apart.”

Claims of  “parental alienation” are well known by professional bodies and as such, is not accepted by any for use against another parent.   

2006 – The National Council of Juvenile and Family Court Judges also discredited the theory.  It stated:

The discredited “diagnosis” of “PAS” (or allegation of “parental alienation”), quite apart from its scientific invalidity, inappropriately asks the court to assume that the children’s behaviors and attitudes toward the parent who claims to be “alienated” have no grounding in reality. It also diverts attention away from the behaviors of the abusive parent, who may have directly influenced the children’s responses by acting in violent, disrespectful, intimidating, humiliating and/or discrediting ways toward the children themselves, or the children’s other parent.

So whipping out the “parental alienation” card on this one Stuart shows just how twisted fans of this syndrome are.  More Stuart:

“Instead of encouraging the necessary interaction with both parents some battling spouses instead choose to use the children as a weapon against the other. Keeping children away from their fathers can have significant damaging effects. Children from fatherless homes account for 63% of youth suicides, [Source: US Dept. of Health & Human Services, Bureau of the Census]; 71% of pregnant teenagers. [Source: US Dept. of Health & Human Services]; and 71% of all high school dropouts [Source: National Principals Association Report on the State of High Schools].”

Actually research shows children are less at risk with mothers than with fathers.  How do you think the effects of seeing their father stab their mother to death works Stuart?  Is having a violent father around better than no father?  I know that is how the “father’s rights” advocates feel.  What about the children Stuart?  What about the children?

“Often times children are withheld from the other parent as punishment for a perceived wrong. This is commonly done through restraining orders which in the majority of cases do not even involve an allegation of violence. [False DV Allegations Cost $20 Billion] Douglas Darnell, Ph.D. Cites that a parent who physically or psychologically rescues the children when there is no threat to their safety reinforces alienation by placing in the child’s mind the illusion of threat or danger. An alienator may assume that if a parent had been physically abusive with him or her, it follows that the parent will assault the child. This assumption is not always true.”

So Stuart blames Angie for her own death:

“This is another case that demonstrates that a Protective Order does not protect and may actually lead to the death of a parent who was otherwise not threatened. In child custody cases every effort should be made to ensure that the children maintain healthy relationships with both parents. Not doing so can not only damage the children but, as in this case, cost the alienator her life.”
 

Shame on you, Stuart Showalter.  Because of abusive fathers and other father’s rights supporters who use claims of “parental alienation” against women who have genuine fear of their lives, lives will continue to be lost.  As these women continue to die, more and more people will realize the lies you spread are self-serving and dangerous.  And more children will continue to lose their mothers.  Shouldn’t the focus be on stopping violent fathers from doing this, rather than on another “blame the woman” again rant?

Any legislator that buys into your argument needs to be voted out of office.  

Also see:  Former Miss Kauai killed in stabbing at Indiana home and He Swore He’d Never Hurt Her

12 Comments »

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  2. You present a very one sided view to argue against what children need which is access to two loving, fit parents. An anecdote about one case does not justify a policy. I continue to maintain my position that a protective order will NOT keep someone from getting killed. This has clearly been proven again. I would much rather see actual intervention to help all parties involved than just a piece of paper issued that can inflame one side.
    Although you state that children are at less risk with mothers than fathers information obtained through a study of the US Military shows otherwise. http://www.boonecountyfathers.org/militaryreportonmother.html What’s important to know about this is that children with mother OR father are better off with the mother AND father.
    You seem to think that mothers do not plan custody strategies by saying “How interesting he claims the Protective Order was a leverage tool, when she had the hearing on Thursday last week to uphold and extend. Joseph made the run to the courthouse on Friday to file for divorce.” Yet by statute [IC 31-17-2-8-(4)] the interaction and interrelationship of the child with the child’s parent or parents is to be used in determining custody. It has been and continues to be a common custody strategy to obtain an ex parte order for protection baring a parent from having contact with the children and then using that factor in a custody proceeding.
    To answer a question, no, children are not better off around violent father. Nor a violent mother. The actual focus should be on protecting the children and stopping a parent of either gender from doing this not just men. Domestic violence and child custody should not be gender issues. I truly hope that you will one day understand that children need loving parents to care for them not just a mother regardless of whether she is violent.

    Comment by Stuart Showalter — July 2, 2009 @ 11:30 pm

  3. You present a very one sided view to argue against what children need which is access to two loving, fit parents.

    And, I suppose that your argument is two-sided? And if so, where is the proof of that?

    Hoes does a child get “access” to two loving, fit parents? Should it be voluntary, or forced? Does the child have a say so in this “access”?

    Who ever said that it was necessary for a child to have two parents? Can’t those parents be selected? Can’t one parent be substituted for another. Is one parent not good enough?

    Who decides of the parent is “loving”? What if the child doesn’t like the love? What if the child doesn’t want the “love” that that parent is giving?

    What exactly is a “fit” parent? Who gets to decide “fitness”? And if a parent is unfit, does this mean that parent should not have access?

    An anecdote about one case does not justify a policy.

    It doesn’t? Well how about thousands of cases? Is that enough? How about http://justice.posterous.com? Are there enough on there? How much is enough?

    I continue to maintain my position that a protective order will NOT keep someone from getting killed. This has clearly been proven again.

    No, it doesn’t. Everyone knows this. It DOES create evidence though….and these piece of evidence accumulate…and then policy is created…after thousands are already dead. Also, it DOES create hurdle though. But what you suggest is that people sacrifice their lives, in the name of accommodating an abuser

    I would much rather see actual intervention to help all parties involved than just a piece of paper issued that can inflame one side.

    Intervention = mediation, therapies…all kinds of things that are NOT supported if violence is involved. “Help all parties” is a mask for, “if you dont piss me off, then I won’t kill you.” Yeah, put all the focus back on the victim, and the perp doesn’t have to take any responsibility. That’ll work!

    Although you state that children are at less risk with mothers than fathers information obtained through a study of the US Military shows otherwise.

    Strangely enough, U.S. Military data ALSO says that children don’t need TWO PARENTS!

    Also, all statistical data report that children are at an astounding risk of death and injury, when in the care of a man…that man being, their biological father.

    What’s important to know about this is that children with mother OR father are better off with the mother AND father.

    And children are also better off with money and being in the middle class, or hell, the upper class. But that ain’t happening either.

    by statute [IC 31-17-2-8-(4)] the interaction and interrelationship of the child with the child’s parent or parents is to be used in determining custody. It has been and continues to be a common custody strategy to obtain an ex parte order for protection baring a parent from having contact with the children and then using that factor in a custody proceeding.

    Quoting the LAW does not make you right. Actually, no one is FOLLOWING the LAW–which is the problem. It is widely known that domestic violence evidence is not utilized in family court. Take this for example, Florida JUST enacted a law, LAST MONTH, in which misdemeanor d.v. can be CONSIDERED in the family court. CONSIDERED.

    The actual focus should be on protecting the children and stopping a parent of either gender from doing this not just men. Domestic violence and child custody should not be gender issues

    If you want to protect the children, then let the children speak. Domestic violence and child custody are NOT “gender issues.” It just so HAPPENS that men are the overwhelming perpetrators of the violence that leaves women trapped in these situations.

    I truly hope that you will one day understand that children need loving parents to care for them not just a mother regardless of whether she is violent.

    Yes, and where can we find these “loving parents”? A parent that loves, just does, and the children know it.

    Comment by vawnewscentral — July 3, 2009 @ 11:03 am

  4. Geezzzz Stuart, I happened to find this in an Indianapolis, IN paper this morning….seems like it is not an isolated case there. I am guessing you are also blaming these mothers for their own deaths too. If not, that makes the violent father responsible? Seems there is a problem with violent men there (and you are calling Ms. Warnock a violent woman for trying to get away from the violence?????):

    Domestic violence has many victims
    Rally points to effect on home’s children and on co-workers
    By Amanda Hamon
    Posted: July 3, 2009

    The victims of domestic violence aren’t just the women who are beaten or worse by abusive boyfriends or husbands. They include the children, co-workers and others in the lives of the women assaulted.

    That was the message at a rally against domestic violence held Thursday outside North United Methodist Church.

    “We would like the community to understand that this is not a single, pocketed issue. It’s something that involves children, it impacts the workplace, it impacts men and women,” said Julie Marsh, CEO of the Domestic Violence Network.

    More than 50 people took part in the rally.

    In the past two months, three women in the Indianapolis metro area have been slain and their husbands or former husbands have been charged in their deaths. Angela Warnock, 38, was fatally stabbed June 21 in her Brownsburg home; in May, Amenda Yang, 43, was found dead from blunt-force trauma and strangulation in her Lawrence home; and a month later, Beth Stayer, 34, was fatally beaten with a hammer and tire iron in her Whitestown home.

    Laurie Helms, a nursing manager at Clarian North Medical Center, said she was shocked and devastated when she learned her employee, Stayer, had been killed. Stayer left behind two young children.

    “That’s what really killed us — that this is not what she would have wanted for her children,” Helms said.

    Marsh said domestic abuse is not an issue that can be resolved overnight, but that it’s going to take long-term work to make a difference.

    “We’re going to have a rally, then another rally, then another rally,” she said. “As we do that, more and more people will start to understand what domestic abuse is. More importantly, they’ll learn what they can do to help make everyone safe in the community.”

    Comment by justice4mothers — July 3, 2009 @ 11:48 am

  5. Gotta be kind to this poor sod- Sow – - -. It is obvious from his haircut that he has just had brain surgery. It is equally obvious that it didn’t work.The murderer is only that. A murderer.Show – - -does what a lot of siciopaths do- places responsibilty -elsewhere. That way ,one can rape-murder-whatever- and it is ALWAYS someone else’s fault !!!!!! Pathetic.

    Comment by Cold North Wind — July 3, 2009 @ 2:15 pm

  6. Whoops ! Showalter– and– sociopaths- sorry- please excuse the typos- (Showalter made me do it)

    Comment by Cold North Wind — July 3, 2009 @ 2:17 pm

  7. Ahhhh poor poor misguided and misunderstood men. Stooie, Stooie…… Did you FR’s not learn from the Darren Mack incident? What about Bruce Pardo? No amount of back pedaling will change the fact that this man was abusing his wife, the mother of his children. No amount of side stepping the TRUTH will change the fact that she did what law enforcement suggests and got an RO. And NOTHING will ever change the fact that this human piece of garbage MURDERED a woman because he was losing CONTROL.

    I guess Stooie wants an honorary post at Petunia’s Place huh?

    Hope this was not too over the top for you JFM…. I simply lose all patience when I see someone who is displaying extreme….. Well never mind I will behave this is your blog :-) But come on over to MY CORNER Stooie. Petunia is not so nice over there…….

    Comment by Mz. Petunia Pigg — July 3, 2009 @ 7:52 pm

  8. Is Stuart a neonazi? Looks like it. And if it’s not a “gender” issue like he says, why is a part of a group called BooneCountyFathers?
    I pity his children if he advocates violence like he does and excuses murder when there is NO EXCUSE!

    Comment by Medusa — July 3, 2009 @ 8:18 pm

  9. That is awful. I am a dad with shared custody of my son. It is guys like this and the people that support them, that make it so hard for good dads , like myself, to catch a break in family court.

    Comment by Baby Carriers Backpacks — July 9, 2009 @ 12:53 pm

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  12. Ahh- Wally is just pissed ’cause he didn’t get to kill his wife- like those other criminals. He deflects the obvious- by whining about- whatever is handy and fits his vomitous agenda.

    Comment by Cold North Wind — July 11, 2009 @ 4:45 pm


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